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Hi shine4

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Now I have a question about Media and Persia.
Are they both Iran only?
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I only heard Pastor Murray say Iran, but I could of missed it. Great question can't wait to hear what people think.

Now as far as the horns go; from reading these scriptures here, I get the understanding that the big horn and the little horn are America and Great Britain:

What do you all think?

www.theseason.org/daniel/daniel8.htm

Daniel 8:3 "Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last."

Horns always signify power. Daniel's vision saw this ram [male sheep] with two horns. It was an odd looking ram, because one of the horns was larger than the other. When these two horns came out of the river, the smallest came first, with the greater following. The "House of Israel" has been referred to in Scripture as "The lost sheep of Israel" in Matthew 10:6; 15:24, by Jesus in instructing His disciples to carry the gospel message.

So these ram nation would have to tie into the sheep of Israel [The House of Israel]. In that this is prophecy for the end times, our generation, we would then be looking first to find the "House of Israel", then the two horns, or powers, that control the rest of the ten tribes comprising the ancient "House of Israel".

In the book "The Great Deception", the migration of these ten tribes followed by ancient historians, led us to the United States, and Great Britain. The whole House of Israel includes the Christian nations mostly in Western Europe and the Americas. In Genesis 48:13-15 there can be no doubt who the blessed tribes were. They were the two sons of Joseph, Ephraim and Manasseh. If you miss this point, and follow the belief that it was Judah [Jews] that received the blessing of God's promise to Abraham, then your outcome of Bible prophecy has to be mottled and confusing. Which, more than likely, disregards the position of the Kenites, and their role in Bible prophecy also.


In Him
shama

Looking at the same sight:

Daniel 8:20 "The ram which thou sawest having tow horns are the kings of Media and Persia."

This is history, but remember Gabriel said it is a vision to be happening for "the time of the end" [verse 17], and the "end od indignation" of Christ's return, as we read in verse ninteen.

Media and Persia did rule, as history will verify.

Daniel 8:21 "And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king."

"The king of Grecia" was Alexander the Great, where the first king is a type of rulership with world wide control. Some believe this, as I do, to be Satan's offspring, the Kenites.

We know that the Kenites took over the duties of scribes from I Chronicles 2:55, and the priests duties as outlined in Ezra and Nehemiah. Jesus addressed this fact in Matthew 23:2, when He said; "Saying, the scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:". So we can see why Jesus Christ could never get along with those riligious leaders. they were the offspring not of Judah, but of their father, Satan. They try to manipulate times and events to fit their agenda, or you could say, their father Satan's agenda.

Daniel 8:22 "Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power."

Four kingdoms will stand up out of the nation, which is the one world system. Though historically it is Greece that was split into four kingdoms, however, Gabriel is talking of the "time of the end, that will arise out of the two horned nations. Remember that the two horned nations are to United States and Britian, so this four powers of control will rise to control all parts of your life.

These four powers of control are set up to control those who live in the two horned nation in the end times, and friend that is you and I. Those powers are live and active now, and in most cases, have taken control for the past forty years. These powers are the four hidden dynasties, and they do control all parts of your life today. These dynasties are education, economic [banking and industry, etc.], political, and religious, and "they are not of his power". These powers are under the control of the United States government, and the dynasties that are hidden and control the government are in the hands of the Kenites, who are the owners and founders of the New World Order [the United Nations].
Notice also that just as the "end times" prophecy is being julfilled, so also was the historical events of that ancient Grecian kingdom of Alexander the Great. God kept His word that He gave Daniel through His messenger Gabriel. God has His controls on all matters, including each of our needs.
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I guess this is what was but pulling it into today's world of the end times it would fit into the house of Israel which would be the ruling powers of the Christian nations.
This is just my thoughts and am always open to learn more.

His blessings
shama