one of the best reasons not to vote for him.....and since we cant vote for obama bin laden.....it seems the 'masterminds' have worked their catch 22 magic once again.
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I hope theres another conservative choice for prez.....anyone seen mccaines wife?
one of the best reasons not to vote for him.....and since we cant vote for obama bin laden.....it seems the 'masterminds' have worked their catch 22 magic once again. |
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Yes, but we don't really know her yet. Maybe she is a very nice person we don't know. I think everyone is nervous about the choices but we can't
split our votes. Jesus said a house divided can not stand. McCain is the choice we have. If we vote for any other we will get OBAMA! That is how we got
CLINTON...the votes were split between Perot and Bush. Lets not make that mistake again. God Bless...Debra E
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Yes, because Bush and Perot were so much better choices than Clinton.
In reality, one was about as bad as the other. Same thing can be said about McCain and Obama. You guys go do what you wish. As for me, I'm not voting for either of these two turds.
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You guys go do what you wish. As for me, I'm not voting for either of these two turds.Your statement reminds me of South Park episode #808.
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Just so someone did not notice:
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- some desire to SPOT a TARE , (by sight alone) - not very wise (imho) - A CORRUPT TREE , (has CORRUPT FRUIT) , - "continually" - these are our choices (...clearly) A. (you have the right to vote) B. (you have the right not to vote) G. (you also have the right , to not have a right to vote) ...i skipped (C ) , (because not all do , clearly) .....and a (D) is not a passing grade ......and lets not get into the letter (F) - so i ended up at (G) ; (like G- wiz) - The MOTHER of ALL HARLOTS , (is not here yet) ...do we just sit back and do nothing? ( - would CHRIST)? . . .or would HE use HIS vote , (to help others)? Its true , (we cannot change the outcome here) / concerning the NWO - But if you don't make a stand , (then satan wins by default) - clearly!!! - because you know he wants the one he can control the best So is this a CONSERVATIVE? - or a LIBERAL? ( . . .not taking into account any other so-called party) Remember: - we do have the possibility with this new PRESIDENT, - to elect someone who is a conservative, to the SUPERIOR COURT BENCH -you could do nothing , and see another liberal judge placed on the BENCH - someone who would make sure ROE vs WADE ( ...stands). . . .and that the BLOOD on this LAND is never quenched - for this reason alone , ( ....it could be worth voting for the one who is more right, than less right) , - which means " more left" - or am i just speaking too plainly here? We are accountable for what we hold in our heart when we vote & Remember (A promise is a PROMISE) *if they break their word* , that's upon them , & (not upon us) who trusts anyone these days , ( - right)? "FAITH" means what again? (i don't know about everyone else here, but my faith rests in YESHUA), - not in man. Posted (W/Love) Seasoned (W/Salt) SALT is GOOD for the BODY (sorry if i added too much sodium here), - that couldn't be helped. - is it time for peace , (or for WAR)? - or shall we sit idly by , "and do nothing"? - i say (once again), pray about this please , (and let THE LORD lead you), & not 'man' Don
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While I think it is clear that the NWO beast has yet to rise to its form depicted in Revelation chapter 13, still, let's use our discernment here. While it
is true that the NWO is rising as prophecied, and while it is true that you can't stop the movement, still, you're not to get involved one way or the
other. It is NOT our job to help along, nor to prohibit the kenites and the NWO beast system of Satan.
John McCain is a liberal. I don't care about the "R" at the end of his name. John McCain has voted against drilling in the ANWR province, and has voted against using our resources in this nation on more than one occassion. John McCain is also more pro-war than the Bush administration, and I don't mean pro-war as in the good way. This man has a borderline radical viewpoint when it comes to the war on terror. In addition to this, John McCain was also co-sponsor of the McCain-Kennedy Bill, which was to allow illegal immigrants to pay fines, and then be put on the path to citizenship. We MUST control our gates, and McCain has done NOTHING to help in this area. John McCain is also a CFR candidate, and is globalist in his politics. We must keep this in mind before we decide to vote, or not to vote for this man. Let the facts speak for themselves. As for Barak Obama, I think we have said all that needs to be said about him. He is clearly an empty-suit, and a puppet for evil master-minds that wish to take our nation from us. EDIT: While I agree that abortion is terrible, and needs to stop, still, that doesn't mean that to end it requires voting for McCain. There is no proof that McCain will appoint a conservative supreme court justice that will fight against abortion. Besides that, it is in the sitting presidents power to challenge the supreme court on many issues, and yet, none of them have challenged any of the unconstitutional rulings of the Supreme Court. Have you ever wondered why that is ?
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum.
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sure scooter.....vote for a president who has a tare for a wife.....and be just as naive as the rest of the world.....now theres some real wisdom eh.....not to
mention going against some REAL wisdom such as the Word of God.
What part of leave them alone dont you get man? Ill say it again.....just because you cant spot a tare doesnt mean that someone else cant.....but to admit that to yourself might mean that youd have to bring your naive self down a few notches and as you have proven over the years.....that aint about to happen any time soon, quite obviously. Quit interjecting stupidity into a subject you know almost literally nothing about. Have you ever considered for one second that you could be wrong.....that the great scooter might not have been given the gift of descernment in this particular area? You couldnt possibly admit that to yourself now could you? Have you ever considered that if you indeed are wrong.....and many others besides yourself are capable of identifying a tare.....that you might end up looking like a complete fool to those who can? Why do you think I talk to you in this manner scooter? Do think I enjoy arguing with you? Perhaps your statements seem childish and ridiculous to someone who can identify tares.....do you think that might be it? And do you think that someone who can identify tares might just get a little aggitated when some fool contineously posts on a subject they have no way of possibly descerning as fact or fiction.....yet speaks as if they have great authority in the area? "I cant tell a kenite from a Hebrew therefore NOBODY can.....and thats they way it is dabnabit". You are a foolish old man in many respects scooter.....that wine skin of yours is pretty dried out. I cant wait for your response on this one.....oh wait.....it will be exactly like your last umpteen hundred childish repsonses to the same subject matter. Lovey dovey huggy poo. whose got the marshmellows? break out the hippies and the guitars.....and can we all hold hands while we sing around the campfire please. Love, peace and group hugs for all.....at least thats what john lennon would tell you. Why dont you go to boards where others have very little knowledge of God's Word? That is your gift scooter. You teach the basic Word very well and youd be great at teaching people with an intermediate understanding of the Word.....but this board is for people who can chew meat (for the most part) so go eat some marshmellows if you need to but dont push em on me and everyone else here. |
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DK.....jfk was catholic.....and as far as I know.....the only catholic president weve ever had. Old tammany money involved there no doubt.
Did he overstep his boundaries and start believing that he and his system were actually running the show? Im guessing he started to believe that catholicism was the ruling power of the entire world.....a foolish idea.....but one that might easily been made, even by a man in his position. As to why he and his brother were assasinated.....it could have been right wing Protestants and it could have been kenites.....but more than likely it was both as kenites always love to drag along an idiot or two to take the fall if things get rough. |
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Why Kennedy was assasinated, I admit, I'm not entirely sure about. There is multiple reasons why he would have been assasinated, but since it's in the
past, I'm going to let that sleeping dog alone. I do, however, find it very convienient that by his assasination this perpetuating legacy of the
"Kennedy-Royalty" crap was cemented in the mind of the people of this country.
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As far as who assassinated JFK and his brother, supposedly Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone shooter, but no doubt it was more than likely the Mossad and CIA, the
Mossad could never have pulled it off without the CIA involved. As for RFK, supposedly Sirhan Sirhan assassinated him. But the "experts" just this
year so no way did he do it.
http://www.nbc30.com/news/15712020/detail.html It's not to say that the JFK and RFK didn't have their own agendas in the whitehouse, probably both involved Marilyn Monroe, I think they rather enjoyed money and skirt chasing, what Kennedy hasnt had some kind of scandal? but oh, she died too! Somebody wanted a bunch out of the way, I wonder who on earth that could of been? Then good ole Ted gets a brain tumor after supporting Obama. (OH SO THAT EXPLAINS TEDS BACKING OBAMA AND HIS POLITICAL STANCE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS! HE HAS HAD A BRAIN TUMOR!) I wonder who was trying to get Ted's attention? Could it be Father, YHVH? I sure would like to think so. Maybe the majority of Obama supporters have brain tumors, maybe most politicians have brain tumors. It sure seems like it.
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Guess who said these words
President John F. Kennedy Waldorf-Astoria Hotel Mr. Chairman, ladies and gentlemen: I appreciate very much your generous invitation to be here tonight. You bear heavy responsibilities these days and an article I read some time ago reminded me of how particularly heavily the burdens of present day events bear upon your profession. You may remember that in 1851 the New York Herald Tribune under the sponsorship and publishing of Horace Greeley, employed as its London correspondent an obscure journalist by the name of Karl Marx. We are told that foreign correspondent Marx, stone broke, and with a family ill and undernourished, constantly appealed to Greeley and managing editor Charles Dana for an increase in his munificent salary of $5 per installment, a salary which he and Engels ungratefully labeled as the "lousiest petty bourgeois cheating." But when all his financial appeals were refused, Marx looked around for other means of livelihood and fame, eventually terminating his relationship with the Tribune and devoting his talents full time to the cause that would bequeath the world the seeds of Leninism, Stalinism, revolution and the cold war. If only this capitalistic New York newspaper had treated him more kindly; if only Marx had remained a foreign correspondent, history might have been different. And I hope all publishers will bear this lesson in mind the next time they receive a poverty-stricken appeal for a small increase in the expense account from an obscure newspaper man. I have selected as the title of my remarks tonight "The President and the Press." Some may suggest that this would be more naturally worded "The President Versus the Press." But those are not my sentiments tonight. It is true, however, that when a well-known diplomat from another country demanded recently that our State Department repudiate certain newspaper attacks on his colleague it was unnecessary for us to reply that this Administration was not responsible for the press, for the press had already made it clear that it was not responsible for this Administration. Nevertheless, my purpose here tonight is not to deliver the usual assault on the so-called one party press. On the contrary, in recent months I have rarely heard any complaints about political bias in the press except from a few Republicans. Nor is it my purpose tonight to discuss or defend the televising of Presidential press conferences. I think it is highly beneficial to have some 20,000,000 Americans regularly sit in on these conferences to observe, if I may say so, the incisive, the intelligent and the courteous qualities displayed by your Washington correspondents. Nor, finally, are these remarks intended to examine the proper degree of privacy which the press should allow to any President and his family. If in the last few months your White House reporters and photographers have been attending church services with regularity, that has surely done them no harm. On the other hand, I realize that your staff and wire service photographers may be complaining that they do not enjoy the same green privileges at the local golf courses that they once did. It is true that my predecessor did not object as I do to pictures of one's golfing skill in action. But neither on the other hand did he ever bean a Secret Service man. My topic tonight is a more sober one of concern to publishers as well as editors. I want to talk about our common responsibilities in the face of a common danger. The events of recent weeks may have helped to illuminate that challenge for some; but the dimensions of its threat have loomed large on the horizon for many years. Whatever our hopes may be for the future--for reducing this threat or living with it--there is no escaping either the gravity or the totality of its challenge to our survival and to our security--a challenge that confronts us in unaccustomed ways in every sphere of human activity. This deadly challenge imposes upon our society two requirements of direct concern both to the press and to the President--two requirements that may seem almost contradictory in tone, but which must be reconciled and fulfilled if we are to meet this national peril. I refer, first, to the need for a far greater public information; and, second, to the need for far greater official secrecy. I The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know. But I do ask every publisher, every editor, and every newsman in the nation to reexamine his own standards, and to recognize the nature of our country's peril. In time of war, the government and the press have customarily joined in an effort based largely on self-discipline, to prevent unauthorized disclosures to the enemy. In time of "clear and present danger," the courts have held that even the privileged rights of the First Amendment must yield to the public's need for national security. Today no war has been declared--and however fierce the struggle may be, it may never be declared in the traditional fashion. Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe. The survival of our friends is in danger. And yet no war has been declared, no borders have been crossed by marching troops, no missiles have been fired. If the press is awaiting a declaration of war before it imposes the self-discipline of combat conditions, then I can only say that no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent. It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match. Nevertheless, every democracy recognizes the necessary restraints of national security--and the question remains whether those restraints need to be more strictly observed if we are to oppose this kind of attack as well as outright invasion. For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least in one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money. The newspapers which printed these stories were loyal, patriotic, responsible and well-meaning. Had we been engaged in open warfare, they undoubtedly would not have published such items. But in the absence of open warfare, they recognized only the tests of journalism and not the tests of national security. And my question tonight is whether additional tests should not now be adopted. The question is for you alone to answer. No public official should answer it for you. No governmental plan should impose its restraints against your will. But I would be failing in my duty to the nation, in considering all of the responsibilities that we now bear and all of the means at hand to meet those responsibilities, if I did not commend this problem to your attention, and urge its thoughtful consideration. On many earlier occasions, I have said--and your newspapers have constantly said--that these are times that appeal to every citizen's sense of sacrifice and self-discipline. They call out to every citizen to weigh his rights and comforts against his obligations to the common good. I cannot now believe that those citizens who serve in the newspaper business consider themselves exempt from that appeal. I have no intention of establishing a new Office of War Information to govern the flow of news. I am not suggesting any new forms of censorship or any new types of security classifications. I have no easy answer to the dilemma that I have posed, and would not seek to impose it if I had one. But I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to reexamine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self-restraint which that danger imposes upon us all. Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: "Is it news?" All I suggest is that you add the question: "Is it in the interest of the national security?" And I hope that every group in America--unions and businessmen and public officials at every level-- will ask the same question of their endeavors, and subject their actions to the same exacting tests. And should the press of America consider and recommend the voluntary assumption of specific new steps or machinery, I can assure you that we will cooperate whole-heartedly with those recommendations. Perhaps there will be no recommendations. Perhaps there is no answer to the dilemma faced by a free and open society in a cold and secret war. In times of peace, any discussion of this subject, and any action that results, are both painful and without precedent. But this is a time of peace and peril which knows no precedent in history. II It is the unprecedented nature of this challenge that also gives rise to your second obligation--an obligation which I share. And that is our obligation to inform and alert the American people--to make certain that they possess all the facts that they need, and understand them as well--the perils, the prospects, the purposes of our program and the choices that we face. No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed. I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers--I welcome it. This Administration intends to be candid about its errors; for as a wise man once said: "An error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it." We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors; and we expect you to point them out when we miss them. Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed--and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment-- the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution- -not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply "give the public what it wants"--but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion. This means greater coverage and analysis of international news--for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security--and we intend to do it. III It was early in the Seventeenth Century that Francis Bacon remarked on three recent inventions already transforming the world: the compass, gunpowder and the printing press. Now the links between the nations first forged by the compass have made us all citizens of the world, the hopes and threats of one becoming the hopes and threats of us all. In that one world's efforts to live together, the evolution of gunpowder to its ultimate limit has warned mankind of the terrible consequences of failure. And so it is to the printing press--to the recorder of man's deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news--that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent. |
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Abbzeq , (time to put up)
-PROVE CINDY M. "IS A TARE" , (and that you didn't accuse a CHILD OF GOD) - Seems this is where your heart is at - Because this is what you post about. (endlessly) These seeds of yours are dangerous ( - and i hope everyone will see this in the end) What EVIL WORKS , (AGAINST CHRIST), "has she done". & "Prove her lineage is of CAIN" ---------------- ------------------------------ ----------------------------------------- (GROUP) First it was John M , (as a TARE) / ' some said ' - now its his mate ( - i mean just look at his name) ( - said in irony)
as i have said: time and time again ( - of VOTING) (i am not happy with the choices we have) (........yet here we are) - this is what we have to choose from , this LOT , ( - if we do choose at all) - some are so blind , (yet they claim to all they can see better than most) - and some are beginning to believe them. (that within itself is dangerous) "FATHER" does not send us out , (TO CULL OUT THE TARES)!!! - if you see one , (........but do you)? - CHRISTIANS without sight , (HARM THE BODY) - "GREATLY" - and satan is the "FALSE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN " , (that's a known fact) CHRIST taught us , (how to handle the TARES) ' if there is one ' & (we have the right to correct false teachings) and if there isn't one , and you point your finger at someone. ( - then a commandment has been broken)!!! CHRIST said LEAVE THEM BE , (if there is one) - or convert them , (if you can) (Added Note) keep your spirit in CHECK (when replying_) - Abbzeq ( - and post back your evidence, so we can glean the TRUTH here) Proverbs 9:8 [?] Don
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http://theseason.yuku.com/topic/5553
- i just read this , (after i posted my message above) - "AMAZING HOW THE HOLY SPIRIT WORKS" - just thought i'd share this here , (About Cindy McCain)
REPENTANCE (is) a GIFT (...bought and paid for with MESSIAH'S PRECIOUS BLOOD) [&]
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I just went to get; http://theseason.yuku.com/topic/5553 I come back and you've already posted it, and also for Abbzeq's edification, as I intended too do. Maybe one of us can reach him in the wilderness. I also think to not vote, is a vote for Obamanation. . Agape . Half Decent .
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As the moderator I would like to interject that one can disagree without personal attack. Abbzeq if you can't figure out a way to do that in your replies
to skooter I will start deleting your posts without warning. I would email you privately but your personal comments to skooter were not in private.
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- i don't trust obama / Truth be told ....Why you may ask? (after sitting in a CHURCH that teaches RACE-HATE) - for all those years? Then "claiming ignorance" (....saying he did not know he felt that way) . . .After 20 years? - Change is GOOD , ( ....if it is change for the better) |
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