There's another book called "Biblical mathematics." The author clearly believes in the rapture. Shouldn't this book be rejected? We all know
the rapture is a lie. Where do we go from here? We need Skooter's sage advice.
Mt. St. Helens and Iran....
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Senior Master Sickleman
Posts: 661 (01/06/08 02:40:31) |
Pastor Murray has recieved questions before regarding the book of Biblical Mathematics and the rapture theory. Pastor Murray stated he leaves the book in the
chapel library because he feels he teaches agains the rapture theory in enough detail that his students are strong enough in their minds to read the parts
about rapture, and discard it as false. Pastor Murray has also stated that no man is 100 percent correct, including himself. This is why he encourages people
to read the Bible for theirself, and do their own study and homework.
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum.
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Senior Master Noontender
Posts: 180 (01/06/08 04:21:24) |
The Dark Knight wrote: That is the point I was trying to make. I've read many of the books from the SCN library, and I'd enjoyed them all. I'm glad Pastor Murray recommended those books. I can read whatever I want because the Bible is the primary manuscript, and all other books are secondary manuscripts. If the book, or aspects of the book contradicts the Word, then it's not true. Only those with weak faith or of a cultic mindset are scared of reading what they want. By all means, Skooter should avoid threads, books and even people that may cause him to lose faith. That is, until he's weaned off the milk. |
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Senior Master Sickleman
Posts: 662 (01/06/08 04:22:08) |
skooter942000 wrote:
Personally, I believe most mythology (if not all of it) stems from either spiritual truth that has been corrupted, or from real history disguised and cloaked with myths and legends. For example, Odin, the great warrior god of the Nordic peoples is believed by many to have been a real historic warrior, who would later be deified by his followers, and worshiped by latter generations of his people. The same can be said for many other legends. Sargon the magnificent, whom Sidney Bristowe identified with Cain is clearly another example. She went to great lengths to prove this point, and I feel much of her work is accurate, even to this date. However, we must be cautious when tracing mythology, and realize that it is exactly that........myths and legends. Not every word of it is true, nor is every word of it false. The main purpose, at least I feel, for a Christian to study mythology and legends is to seek out the ancient truth, and how it was scattered the world over, as well as how it was corrupted. By doing this, you get some what of a "feel" for how kenites, Satan, and deceitful men like to cloak the truth with lies and allegory. It also displays how the truth was known to the ancient races and civilizations of people so that one day, when they hear of Christ they might be able to look back on those myths, and realized the promised truths and promised salvation were fulfilled in HIM, and they could convert, and be saved. However, searching myths and legends can lead one down primrose lane if they're not careful. Everything in mythology should be taken with a grain of salt, and should not be considered solid truth. Remember to always check what you read with God's word, and his overal plan. If it doesn't jive with God's word, or if something feels "off" or "out of place", then thats probably your spiritual discernment telling you to beware of what your reading. Please, read the full post, and may careful attention to the parts I underlined, and especially to the parts I placed in bold print. You will see my TRUE feelings towards myths and legends, and how I really feel towards them. I agree that our main focus should be on Christ, but as Pastor Murray has always taught us, a true Christian (Christ man) can read anything, and not have their faith changed or shaken. As you like to say, always.....ALWAYS keep your true discernment ON.
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum.
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Posts: 663 (01/06/08 04:26:03) |
Jehonadab wrote: The last part that I underlined should have been avoided (at least in my opinion). We should ALL remember not to point fingers at each other. Thats just what Satan wants us to do. He loves those finger pointing contests, because he usually ends up becoming the referee for the contest.
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Senior Master Noontender
Posts: 182 (01/06/08 04:38:52) |
The Dark Knight wrote: I know what Skooter is up to. Many that are deceived can't see it. So worry not, Dark Knight, for I will be banned; and with the banning will come the deletions. But this time, the banning will be for a legitimate reason. Good night....and good luck. |
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Senior Master Sickleman
Posts: 664 (01/06/08 05:55:37) |
I'm simply saying no one should be pointing the fingers or engaging in babified name calling. This includes EVERYONE on this board. I've seen this
stuff so many times in the past, and it's rediculous. The only thing it does is resorts in good, intelligent conversations being derailed into a fruitless
argument. That is all.
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Junior Miller
Posts: 991 (01/06/08 06:32:07) |
2 Timothy 2:24
And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 
Love in Christ, sarah
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Senior Master Noontender
Posts: 185 (01/06/08 08:17:24) |
The Dark Knight wrote: Everyone except Skooter. You know he's exempt from these rules. He's very special. I wish we had more like him. |
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Junior Miller
Posts: 995 (01/06/08 09:10:47) |
I wish we had more like Skooter too. For over the years he has proven to be well grounded in the Word of God, I for one am very thankful to have him for a
brother in Christ, and I too wish we had more like him. For I enjoy his work and look forward to reading his comments. Thank you Skooter for being a willing
servent of the Lord. The God Lord has Blessed you with much Wisdom. And it shows .
It is a shame when others can't seem to grasp the Truth, but strike out in creul words to downgrade and try to ruin another's good reputation. Wisdom is justified by her children. Love in Christ, sarah
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Senior Master Servant
Posts: 2279 (01/06/08 13:45:23) |
...sorry about that DK / (i sent you a PM) |
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Senior Master Noontender
Posts: 193 (01/06/08 21:12:58) |
It's okay that DK said that; but it's not okay if I would have said that. Your logic makes complete sense. 2 plus 2 = 5.
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Junior Watchman
Posts: 1693 (01/07/08 01:14:12) |
I try not to send to many PM's to anyone.....espeacially in regards to wether or not I think someone on these boards can be trusted because it is a form of
backbiting and gossip.....which in itself can help to derail the Truth simply by driving a wedge between the trust that most of us should have towards one
another.
Not saying anyone is doing that but seeing scooters post just made me think of how detremental Pm's could be in a community as small as this one. Personally I think most of us are grown up and wise enough to decide for ourselves wether or not someone on this board is attempting to dceive us all.....we dont need Pm's with dire warnings to help us figure it out. Probably best for us all to say what we have to say out in the open.....just be careful of people who send to many Pm's concerning the character or scholarship of others..... again, not saying anyone is doing it but I think this small group is rather fragile in some respects and it would be easy for someone with bad intentions to start stirring the pot through the use of Pm's.....all the while pretending to be a good guy or gal. Again.....not saying scooter is doing this just that his post made me start thinking about it. |
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Junior Tiller
Posts: 78 (01/07/08 22:58:25) |
Speaking of time lines, such as the Mayan calender, I seem to remember something similar in the Pyramidology book. A time line inside the pyramid that ends
abruptly. (not to go back to the grey haired cigar smoker) It's a dam_ shame that all the old priests destroyed everything they didn't understand or
felt threatened by. With todays technology, we could have very well figured out these mysteries. As far as when the proverbial stuff is going to hit the
fan.... the labor pains have been going on for some time now, getting stronger and coming faster and faster. Look at where man has come in 6000 years, and the
last 100 and the last 50 and the last ten years and from last year. I remember when you had to DIAL the phone! By hand! (those radio contests were murder on
your finger lol) If you called someone and they didn't answer after 20 rings, you tried again tomorrow. I remember when the world stopped the see a man
step on the moon, now we have space craft beyond Pluto. The WORLD now sees events as they happen, not a week later in the paper. (such as the world sees the 2
witnesses dead in the street). How much more can we advance in these labor pains?
As far as Hamas and such.... all they would have to do is hit about 6 key electrical sub-stations to put the entire US in the dark, no water, no communication, no heat.... we would be in a world of hurt. If you really think about it, what IS keeping them from putting the hurt on us? It would be so easy to do. A few well placed bombs, poison in the water, start a bunch of fires, it would be easy. It's scary, but we put our faith in the Lord. Be on the watch. One more thing, as an avid reader to these posts, it is very discouraging to see all the bickering and nit-picking that goes on. We are all on the same side. Let's lift each other up and help in each others understanding. It is good to read as much information as we can get our hands on, if for nothing else, to see what the enemy is up to. In Christ, MrAMX2u |
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Posts: 74 (08/17/08 17:56:24) |
I'm trying to go through some previous post, maybe it will help. WELCOME TO THE FIGTREE
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Posts: 390 (08/23/08 20:49:02) |
Here is something to think about if the Pastor in his calculations came up with 2014 -7 yrs but the 7 yrs has been shorten to 5 months then it would make sense
that it would be 2014 - 5 months which would be around May 2013. What do you think?
Also, note of interest: There will be a Solar Eclipes May 10, 2013. http://www.mreclipse.com/Special/alert.html Also, another note of interest: There will be a Lunar Eclipes May 25, 2013 http://www.mreclipse.com/Special/LEnext.html
Proverbs 9:9 Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
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Posts: 252 (08/24/08 14:56:08) |
I think the winter solstice of december 21st, 2010 is going to be very very significant. When you research the full lunar eclipse on that day and the
geocentric coordinates and the meanings of those numbers, it speaks very loudly.
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