I was studying things outside of the bible and came up with a theory, now this is just an idea but it may have some things that relate. According to the Mayan
calendar it suggest that the world will come to and end in December 2012. My belief is that around the same time the Mayans were gathering their intellegence
for the new found civilization was the same time the fallen angels were on earth influencing man kind. In Genisis there is no specifical time that the fallen
angels were here on earth, and where they went through out the earth. With what we see in Mayan art some suggest that they were influenced by aliens/ufo's,
however as students of the Lord we understand that to be false and we might think of these people in ufo's as angelic figures. Now the date on the Mayan
calendar may have been a suggestion from one of the angelic beings describing the time of there return and ruling the world, thus the end of the known world.
Yet this usumption was made thousands of years before Jesus was sent to earth as a man, and when Jesus was sent to earth he shorten the time of Satan's
rule to a five month period. So it may be possible that the original date of Satans rule was going to end in December and thats what the fallen angels told the
Mayans, but they didn't anticipate Jesus shortening the time to the five month period becuase they told the Mayans this information thousands of years in
advance. What is everyone's thought on this?
Theory of the end!!!
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Senior Master Servant
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What era was the mayan civilization? The fallen angels were on the earth prior to the great flood. I believe the mayan civilization was after the flood, altho
history isnt my best subject. 
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Okay now that I have picked myself up off the floor...... The theory you are speaking of "outside the bible" and the hypothesis you are attempting needs to show a few more sources and facts to even get past the first sentence of your statement.
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Junior Fieldhand
Posts: 2 (08/17/08 15:42:30) |
I read that the Mayan calendar dated back to 3112 B.C. and that the events of Noahs flood was 2500 B.C. if I'm wrong maybe someone can give me some insite
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Junior Tiller
Posts: 125 (08/17/08 17:47:17) |
Hi warrior,
On a post recently regarding the Mayan calendar I explained that anything outside of the Word of God is heresay. Jesus says His Word is truth. Outside of the Word, including interpretations of the Mayan calendar, historical people and places have to be examined with the utmost scrutiny. If you ever watched the movie Braveheart, than you might remember the line spoken at the beginning of that movie by the Robert the Bruce character, when he narrarates that history is written by those who have hanged heroes. One look at the media today, shows that, just like many historians, they give their own individual interpretation of events and not necessarily the truth. Even CNN has the audacity to claim that it is, "The most trusted name in news." God's word is truth. If you want Biblical accuracy as to when the, "time of the end" is, than you have to examine the 2300 days of Daniel, mentioned in Daniel chapter 8, regarding the first cleansing and the last cleansing of the temple, when the last cleansing will be completed by Christ. PM did state in response to a question from a viewer a few months back, that he did find the correlation between the Mayan calendar and the time of the return of Christ to be fascinating. Remember, we live in a unique time: we are living in a time when Israel is a country, signifying, according to the parable of the fig tree, that we are in the end generation. From some interpretations of that calendar, the date you claim is correct. The Mayans believed that the outer surface of the sun, expands and then contracts on a normal cycle, every 5000 years or so and their calendar does not go past 2012 AD. Many ancient cultures were worshippers of the stars, so the fact that they did have semi-accurate astrological calendars means that they were decent astronomers. Maybe they were in the ancient past given knowledge of the stars by some of the fallen ones. Maybe they weren't. It is not written in the Word that they were and it may be a long shot that it could be interpreted that they were. It doesn't mean however, that the Mayan culture knew the truth of when the end would happen. Our Father let us know the season of when the end begins, not the day or the hour. Only He knows when the actual end is. Hope that helps. Psalm 147:5, Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite. |
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Junior Fieldhand
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Thank you very much for your post. First thing to say was that this was just an idea that I had, one of many correlations that I have when considering history
of different civilizations and biblical history. This came to mind because I was speaking to someone that was raised a Native American and within his religion
they believe that higher beings thousands of years ago came to their tribes and taught them everything they would need to have their civilization flourish. And
in the Epic of Gilgemesh it was explained that there were gods that walked through the cities amoungst the people. Maybe the fallen angels had alot of
influence on the times back then like they do now but in a more appearing way. I know that the Kenites have alot of influence and have had alot of influence on
history and how some of it was written, but maybe at one time it was actually the fallen angels that people were writting about, not gods. These are just a few
of many thoughts that I have that may or may not correlate with the events of biblical history. One reason that I thought that this might have some truth in it
was that the bible's history, not prophecy, but history was written from the stand point of one family and the generations of that family. They
wouldn't of mentioned eveything around the world because it didn't pertain to them at that time.
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Junior Fieldhand
Posts: 4 (08/17/08 20:14:46) |
I just got off the phone with my mother and she told me that this subject was brought up a while ago and that it became a heated discussion really quickly.
I'm sorry for bringing it up again. I have been a student of Shepards Chapel for a couple of years now and thought this would be a great site to get
answers to questions I have. This post was just a question that I have a few assumptions about but don't know too much about it. The only refrences I have
to the ideas are from different website that I looked over. I'm not sure if they are credible or not maybe someone could point me to some credible website
for historical information. I'm a new student for a history/religion major and find that there is alot of things in history that may correlate to the bible
inadvertenly. I'm just looking for some guidence on my studies. Thank you
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Posts: 651 (08/17/08 20:35:45) |
Hi warrior:
I don't see nothing wrong , there are many things in civilizations we don't understand and for sure satan had something to do with, (some worship the dragon or the snake, all satans names, someone had to teach them this) this doesn't mean it didn't happen or that we are to close our eyes because the bible doesn't talk about them, we are suppose to be wiser than the serpent, remember in the times of Job satan walked the earth to and fro probably teaching all this junk that praise him, and the examlpe in Egypt in the times of Moses, pharaohs priest turn sticks into serpents, I don't see anyone doing that kind of magic today and I am sure satan had something to do with that, always trying to outdo our Father, remember he came to steel and destroy, he is a liar and he is good at it, the same way I am sure satan had to with all these prophesies by man, words or even carved stones, for satan might not know the day, minute or second that Jesus comes back but for sure knows the season, Hey, if we know the season by the grace of our Father for sure satan has always known and has tried to put on earth as many false witnesses to influence the unlearned or even to frighten those that believe in our Father or make them doubt, remember when something frightens someone who doesn't understand something he will react with anger, it is all about deception. Like our Pastor says no step for a stepper. This is a personal opinion Praise our Father Always in Yahshua Miguel |
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Senior Master Servant
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History and the Bible go hand and hand so no apologies needed. Always study and learn, God will lead you to all truths.
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Junior Fieldhand
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Thank you all for your responses.
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Major Master Servant
Posts: 5133 (08/17/08 22:08:21) |
my opinion about the angels telling them when to expect them back would mean they had to know the time. i don't believe they knew the time to tell anyone
cause the SON OF MAN didn't know the time.
MATTHEW 24 36] But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. MARK 13:32 32] But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. ACTS 1: 6] When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? [7] And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. now after JESUS is back in a spiritual body, he does not say he doesn't know the time, in acts he says we are not to know the time till the FATHER is ready for us to know. so JESUS may have known the time after the resurrection but was a hush hush thing. now the angels may have guessed but i am sure they didn't know the time they was to be tossed out of heaven. but nothing wrong with wondering. in CHRIST, yaka.
Jer 7:23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
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Thank you warrior of god, Interesting facts brought up in this thread.
Yakabunch, and Katabole, totally enjoy your comments. Joyce and Mom, Your heart, understanding and compassion, totally comfort warriorofgod, welcome! Brother, to your place of learning with other brothers and sisters in Christ. We all learn and grow in the Word here. We love each other, and we edify each many member body of Christ. If you are corrected. It done in Love. No one wants anything but Father's True Word and emotions here.We are his reflections, I pray! Agape, Betty |
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Senior Plowwright
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Maybe a study of the history of many nations and what will happen to them at the "end"?
Psa 83:1 ΒΆ [[A Song [or] Psalm of Asaph.]] Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
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Psa 83:15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
this could be said going on as we speak. PRAYERS, for those who LOVE YAH, may HE put HIS wall around those affected. may HE give them enough wisdom not to strap themselves to a kite in a hurricane.  in CHRIST, yaka.
Jer 7:23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
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Joyce and Mom wrote:the giants were around both before and after the flood, a second influx as pastors Murray say.
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Hi Ezekiel!!! I haven't seen you in a long time!! I hope you and your family are doing well.
Terri
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